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Enough is Enough - Part 3
October 8, 2008 |
In yesterday’s discussion about the recent behavior problems at West Central Valley we focused on the kids. We all know, however, that the blame does not fall on their shoulders alone. Mom and Dad share some of the responsibility, but they can also be a large part of the solution.
A mom calling someone else a bitch because this person possesses the courage she herself doesn’t is ridiculous. Yelling at a coach from the stands that the team would be better if Little Johnny was playing is foolish. Sometimes parents need to detach themselves from the situation and look at it as an outsider would. Accept the fact that maybe your child isn’t the second coming of Christ.
Everyone wants the best for their own kids. It’s understandable to want your kid to play in the game or to believe that your child isn’t capable of telling a lie. But it’s time to take off the blinders. Shut off the tunnel vision. Quit playing ostrich and pull your head out of the sand.
The problem isn’t going to go away just by turning away and ignoring it. Take a stand and be the adult in the relationship. Set a good example. It’s what the kids need. Telling your kid you love them no matter what they do will not get them going down the right track, but setting limits with defined boundaries and real consequences for not acting appropriately might.
So come on Mom and Dad. Do your part to raise a young adult that is ready to face the real world. Give them the attitudes and beliefs to succeed. Stop enabling this bad behavior and tell your son or daughter “Enough is enough.”
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And the stupid will attempt to take over the world…save for the few smart, brave soles
Something tells me these kids will turn out just like the parents!
Are you doing this with your step kids Nate? I bet you are a wonderful father
After all of this “discussing” has come to an end the real question remains…How do we as a community & school district fix the problem? The way it seems is that this is a situation that has been festering under the surface for some time now & it has finally blown up. What is the solution to the problem? All the talking, name calling & finger pointing in the world wil not solve the problems at hand. The reality is that regardless of the ridiculous things that these athletes have done they are still teenagers who will make very stupid decisions. What can be done to help solve the issue or at least move in a direction that will eventually make people proud to be associated with the WCV school & sports programs? If parents feel that things need to be done then they should bring their issues to the school board, the superintendent, coaches, teachers…anyone that has contact with these student athletes & try to make things better in the future. Nobody wants to see the day where WCV drops sports or goes to sharing agreements due to issues that could be bettered starting today. Obviously any issue needs to be handled in the appropriate manner, yelling and pointing fingers will not get the job done. After all that has gone on there will need to be a huge effort by the football team and student athletes to reach out to the community and show that there are many good quality student athletes at WCV. And on the same note the community will have to give them a chance to change the culture we have seen lately.
The issue just isn’t just in the high school and it it really is not even a ’school’ problem. The big picture is it is our entire community. Go to any youth sport football, soccer, basketball, baseball and you see that our WCV mentality of win at all cost is being instilled by over bearing parents who are coaching 8 and 9 year olds. Parents are the greatest threat to ruin everything. This issue has been running rampent for years and starts with youth sports. Leaders of those organizations need to fix the problem. OR build a new school cause that will fix it for sure!
Well I’m not even sure where to begin…enough is enough but when you have someone who works and lives in the same school district you would handle yourself professional. In my opinion, she acts like she is still in high school, she gossips and says things many times that aren’t factual. Which makes me wonder if Kyle even said anything other than the b word. It was blown way out of proportion and she has to learn how to separate her personal matters toward someone from her profession.
HI, My name is Tim Feltner, I am the step father of Kyle Brondum… I am starting this by stating my name because I feel it is neccesary to be forthcoming with the WHOLE truth if you are going to attempt to tell the truth… I have read this column for a while with the school bond issues and other things.. It has always amazed me how people voice their opinions but are never big enough to back them with their idenity..
No one but Kyle and the aide in question know what really happened… I know what Kyle has told us, and I know that Kyle has always told us the truth… He threw an apple to T.J. and the apple rolled with in 3 feet of the aide… he was sent to the office and told he could not play in the game that night… when leaving school he did call her the b word… that was it… she went to the officer on duty and asked him to handle the situation…. Kyle was sent back to the office.. he was then allowed to go to school on Monday and was offered his choice of a 2 day ISS or a 2 day OSS.. he chose the 2 day OSS…. as for Anne calling and leaving a message… she did call… not to leave a message but to find out what happened… again the police were called to listen to the message and found nothing to be threatening… no charges… no nothing… if someone believes this message threatened her life then don’t you suppose Anne would be detained in the guthrie county jail pending charges? This was a case of a teenage boy venting his frustration for not getting to play in a football game.. not right… but it is what it is… lets not throw a kid under the bus because you have nothing better to do with your time than chat in these forums..
as for the statement that this kid will turn out just like his parents… I hope like hell he does… I hope Millers kids grow up to support the community the way their parents do… I hope the pease boys do 1/2 of what their family has done for this community… what do any of you have to back up what you or your families have done???
So go ahead and take your crack at bad mouthing me and my family… bad mouth the Harris family all you want…. but until you back your words with your idenity they are as worthless as those of you who choose to dwell on one situation that happened last friday..
our school district and our teens do have alot of challanges ahead of them… we and the school can not discipline our kids the way we were disciplined growing up…. right wrong or indifferent… that is the truth.. but read back thru the last 3 days of blogs and tell me how any of you are helping!!!
I just read what Tim wrote about Kyle. I think that sometimes aides or teachers just can’t stand a kid and things get out of control. As far as the parents causing the problem, what about our athletic director and head coach taking a helmet from a kid and throwing it. I wonder where they get it from? I sit in the stands and our fans get frustrated. We only have 23 kids on the sidelines and if a player goes out no one knows what to do. I think that Kyle is a great kid and needs to be given a 2nd chance. Not one of us has lead the perfect life and I think if you think back to some of the things we as adults did back in high school, our asses would have been in jail. Lets not judge people without knowing the facts.
11:37 your comment about the coach throwing the helmet was not accurate.
Max threw the helmet 2 times, the coach took it from him and softly threw it aside. It was not with the force that Max threw the helmet with.
It if funny that the ones commenting on the coach throwing the helmet were Bruce and Karla Miller.
I was sitting in the stands last Friday night. Max Miller did not throw his helmet, he was frustrated that he did not make a play and slammed the helmet on the ground. The coach did not softly throw the helmet to the side, he threw it about 10 yards. This is not Bruce or Karla Miller. I was there were you?
4:33 I also was in the stands. Max slammed his helmet, the coach said if you want to throw it then throw it. He threw it. Max retrieved the helmet and yelled gdammit at least twice in front of small children and the rest of the crowd. Karla yelled at him to be smart Max. The coach Mr. Jennings yelled something else at Max and another coach had to step in. Then Max sat out the rest of the half. He came back in the second half. He shouldn’t have in my opinion. I am not the coach. We have never had a coach anywhere at WCV that stood up to the Millers. In fact most people who do coach here don’t want to do it anymore. With parents yelling at you and the win at no cost mentality who can blame them. Right now there is serious contemplation about not having MS winter sports as there are no coaches who want to step up and coach. There aren’t any parents who are stepping up either. Who loses? The kids, but whose fault is that? The parents… it is a vicious cycle. I also hear rumors that Earlham plans to pull out of the sharing agreement for wrestling because of the way our boys behaved at the JV and Varsity football games. Dr. Arnold needs to tell Ed Jennings to fix out athletic department and find an AD who has the balls to do it.
Whe had a dedicated middle school coach for football wrestling and baseball and he quit. I heard one of the reasons was that Bruce Miller was trying to get him fired for not playing Sam in a football game.
WOW!!! Half the peple that write in this stupid forum dont even know what really happens at all. And id like to thank all the people talking trash about our students, players, and school district because us students are reading all these blogs and know that you guys are supporting us…NOT So come on if your grown up to gossip about these isssues then you should be grown up to post your name.
Holy crap guys grow up. You are supposed to be adults and parents. This is why us “kids” act the way we do. We do read this stuff you know. And the way that you are putting down my classmates are wrong. It’s not like we are the only school that has these problems.
I would hope that you would be wasting your time blogging/talking about the good things that our school and community have done instead of talking about all the bad things that have gone wrong.
I get why what Max and Kyle supposively did was wrong. But they have all ready paid their price. Just get over it and grow up. Sadly enough i think some of us students are more mature than you people writing on this blog.
Well, I guess I had to speak my mind. I had a friend that reads this blog and called me to see if I have read what was going on. I had a hard time finding it but I guess that I was glad that I did. First of all I would like to address the person said that I was responsible for having a MS coach fired for not playing Sam in Football, what are you talking about? Another person said that no coach stands up to the Millers? Again, what are you talking about? Yes, we are passionate about of kids but not just our kids. We are passionate about all the kids in our school district. I was sitting in the stands when Max went off friday night. Do I think that he should have been allowed to play the 2nd half, coaches choice. Max had the maturity to apoligize to the team at half time and the coach actually apoligized to him at the half. The middle school situation with coaches has to do with getting their certificate. This takes a serious dedication and a lot of time. I would just like to say that I will continue to support the school and if anyone would like to have a discussion with me about anything, please feel free to look me up at the Panora game tonight and we’ll have a discussion. If you have a problem with the so-called Millers, have enough balls to sign your name to the e-mails. Anyone can be anonymous. Step up to the plate, sign your name or go home.
The coach can’t handle it? Yelling from the parents. Win attitude. I guess you never watched a Stuart-Menlo game or the start of West Central? What did Jim, Bob, and Jeff go through? Thats what coachs do, the can’t please everyone, they play those that are the best at that position, not because of their name. If your pissed that your kid doens’t play then do something about it, help him or her get better. Then instead of having just one or two that are great at that position there will be three, four, five deep. Resulting in more options to chose from maybe even more wins and less hate. It is a team, the more there is to offer the better chance at winning.
I don’t know about Jim or Bob but I know one thing Jeff wouldn’t let the players do is throw their helment or even lay it down on its side. Something as simple as that helps discipline the kids that much more. He also wouldn’t allow any cussing at practice or in the games.
It is a priviledge to be able to participate in sports . I think that it is wrong for all the name calling and finger pointing. We have all made mistakes. I think that if a student doesn’t represent or school and community in apossitive manner they should not be allowed to play. If they have a serious infraction(cussing, throwing temper tantrums, unsportsman like penalties etc)while on the field,they should be benched imediately and have to suit up and run laps up and down the sidelines during the next game. They would be singled out and embarassed. I doubt that they will misbehave on the field again.
It’s really too bad that there are a few that give all a bad name.
I was sticking up for the coaches
“So come on Mom and Dad. Do your part to raise a young adult that is ready to face the real world. Give them the attitudes and beliefs to succeed. Stop enabling this bad behavior and tell your son or daughter “Enough is enough.””
So, come on Joanie and Ralph. Nate has asked for it. Time to tell him “enough is enough” with all this crap he’s started.
This is all so pathetic. The more I read, the more I feel so bad for this kid. You all posting about how horrible he and his friends are: you are pathetic. He’s a what?…17 year old kid? Grow up.
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does anybody who writes shit about other people have a life god u guys r fagets jesus grow up if u have a problem talk to hi in person kyle,max both made a mistake who doesnt so quick saying shit that isnt right
does anybody who writes shit about other people have a life god u guys r fagets jesus grow up if u have a problem talk to him in person kyle,max both made a mistake who doesnt so quick saying shit that isnt right
stupid petty small town redneck crap. families against families.. bakers, harris, millers, nothing ever changes. my dad will beat up your dad. my grandpa hates your grandpa. no wonder there is a leadership deficit - everyone hates each other. Go stuart! Go McCain/Palin!